No One’s Above the Work - Including Us

Episode 8

In this episode of Unmasking Shame, Austin Hatch and Heather Heide debrief their most recent workshop — a therapist training that hit closer to home than either of them expected. They talk about the surprising overlap between training therapists and working with clients, why doing this work forces constant self-accountability, and how their own relationship has been a testing ground for the tools they teach.